The good the bad and the ugly the green brigade

Celtic Fan Discussion
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as a life long Celtic fan , and as a Man from an immigrant family I feel I am in a position to make comment on recent events , and yearly embarrassment to me… I will get to the point

the green brigade … are constantly bringing Celtic foot ball club into situations where a football club should not be and we have a Celtic football club pandering to a minority of Celtic fans

For many years the political stance by the GB are associated to our Club , like I say a minority of the support , the political banners are not fully reflective of most fans, pro Palestine anti Israeli agenda is an embarrassment , especially to the Israeli players we have had at our club
the constant fines , why does our club not intervene and stop this at source… no because they are used to pandering to them

the embarrassment each November, for me is two much , like I say i m from an immigrant family and lost relatives in the war , we weren’t Irish but Dutch , my family is of mixed religion ,( why this should matter ???)
Family members who died fighting for us all,
many Celtic supporters were conscripted into the 2 world wars , many friends work mates from Glasgow were also conscripted , Glasgow lost thousands of young men fighting for US. These people should be remembered ,A POPPY on a shirt is not too much too ask, and before anyone questions “what about Northern Ireland” I get it , But the time is to move on
Celtic football club should be proud of the men and women of Glasgow who sacrificed there lives ,not pandering to a minority , who are not the voice of CELTIC
HH

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I expected more chatter on this one, so I’ll have a crack at a balanced response from Australia, from a University level history grad, and child of migrants to Australia (from Scotland & Argentina)

Firstly, I agree that boos or any noise during a minute silence is uncalled for (in fact, just sh*thouse).

However, I understand and support Celtic’s reluctance to adopt a poppy. 11 November is inherently linked to the first world war, not the second.

Rather than fighting for democracy, or against fascism, this was a war with no good guys. A war between two blocs of European colonial aggressors with an interest in carving up the world between them. Any word to the contrary is counterfactual. The myth of sticking up for little Belgium, or the Yugoslavs is just guff.

To state the obvious, at the same time as the Germans and the British were busy fighting it out to be overlords in Africa and the Middle East, there was another bunch associated with our club of choice who were busy fighting for independence.

In Australia, anyone who points out the above on ANZAC Day (25 April - look it up), gets howled down as a being “un-Australian” as the falsehoods of Australia standing up to Germany for democracy (in WW1) continue to be peddled. The poppy is, for me, an attempt to peddle falsehoods, and normalize militarism.

There is a more nuanced response than that outlined above, but forgive the shorthand, I don’t want to send anyone to sleep.

I have family who died fighting fascism (like many other Celtic fans), and I am proud of that. That is not the story of Rememberence Day. No one fought for “us”, they were dragged into a conflict that only served to support the commercial interests of wealthy Europeans over others.

I agree with your contention that booing and carrying on during a minutes silence is sh*thousery to the extreme. I disagree that Celtic need to get onto the Poppy bus.